Simply I needed to move "Simply I needed to move up a gram 23g and wanted rear grip barrels - when I came across these I thought they are the ones but then I found out that they were Scot Mitchell's - this guy has always been my nemesis when we've crossed oche's. - so I thought if I was to meet him again and beat him with his own darts - I'd be very happy lol. To be honest they throw well - I'm using the V-series V2 fit flights on 15mm Duralumin spinning shafts - several 180's everytime I throw them - I'm learning to move around the board as the extra weight needs getting used too - overall great darts for me" — Chris S. (4/5)